So was it Jesus...?

It's funny, the things you can find in scripture sometimes. Like last night, in a discussion centered on Jude, I was reading along in verse 5. Perhaps you know the place: "But I want to remind you, though you once knew this, that the Lord, having saved the people out of the land of Egypt, afterward destroyed those who did not believe."

Though I have read this passage many times, last night I first noticed that "Lord" is not in small caps. Significance?

I always assumed that the Father was the rescuer of Israel. You know, "God." But if that were the case, Lord would be in small caps, and not with only an upper case L. As it's written, it's a reference to Jesus, not the Father. Like, it was Jesus who spoke with Moses at the burning bush, Jesus who inflicted the plagues on Egypt, and Jesus who led the Israelites out of Egypt. Jesus. That sort of rocks my boat.

Yet, if you have a Bible with footnotes, yours might say, like mine, that many old manuscripts of Jude actually say Jesus, and not Lord. So it seems to have been the understanding of the early church that it was Jesus who came and rescued Israel from Egypt.

I wonder how many other places there are in scripture or history where Jesus was active, and we have simply overlooked it, primarily because of our own filters. Something to think about.

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What is Jesus? I knew a Jesus once. He had identity issues.

AO,

I think you are perhaps a little confused. People are "who," things are "what." The Jesus I know is certainly not a thing. and your identity-challenged Jesus must have been a who as well, it seems.

In any case, the Jesus I know certainly has no identity problems. He knows exactly who he is, and I'm very happy he does.

Do you know him?

I'm not sure what the confusion is. Per most versions of Christianity, Jesus was God, Jesus is the Lord, the Lord is God. Jesus was at the beginning, so it was Jesus who created the world. Jesus as God set man in the Garden of Eden. Jesus as God looked on as Eve was tempted by the "serpent" and subsequently cast the humans out of the garden. Jesus (God) flooded the earth drowning every man, woman and chiold except Noah and his brood. Jesus, as God, gave specific instruction on how to sacrifice livestock in futile rituals to atone for sin. Jesus as God sent plagues to Egypt to punish the Egyptian people for the stubborness of the Pharoah. God came to earth as himself and had himself punished to appease himself (propitiate) for the sins of mankind. Where is the confusion? Christians think Jesus is God, don't they?

Rizdek,

I understand what you are saying, and agree that "Jesus" -- or the Son -- is far more active in the affairs of this world than we usually think. Yet, I wonder if you are eliminating the triune nature of the godhead, having only Jesus active, and eliminating the Father or the Holy Spirit. Care to elaborate?

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